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sprinkmeier, would it be likely to be the last line in my mtab....that being /dev/sda4 /media/disk fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0

yayyyy

smikec, (just checked sudoers... the correct group name is "admin", not "adm". not sure what the latter is for)

unfixable!!!!

sprinkmeier, smikec: it's not adm, it's admin. And a better way to do it is `adduser user admin`

new question then, anyone currently using ushare and know what the new repos are?

I have rechecked "administer the system" under user privileges and my username is checked under the admin group

is there a list of repo's that are not on the sources list that should be to make ubuntu that much more awesome

gRunt, yeah... but it's using FUSE rather then NTFS directly. try something like "/dev/sda4 /media/shared_ntfs ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46,ro 0 1"

L3dPlatedLinux: well there's medibuntu..

thanks sprinkmeier ill try it now and reboot....wish me luck :)

can anyone tell me why i the sound on VLC player and MPlayer stopped working? the rest of the sounds work.. and so does the default movie player (but that player doesnt work well)

gRunt, no need to reboot. run "sudo mount -a" to mount all things that are suppsoed to be auto-mounted.

It is still not working, when I run admin-users in the terminal I get some critical errors "Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated"

ok cool well I cant save the fstab I guess I need to change the permissions first :s

smikec, does "id" tell you you're in the group now?

gRunt, don't change the permissions. use sudo to edit it: "sudo name /etc/fstab"

gRunt, oops: "sudo nano /etc/fstab"

yeah as I hit enter i realised i didnt sudo it

Brack101: reconfigure xserver-xorg did not solve my issue, still get the black screen with mouse pointer

oh alright

no idea

"Verlassend"

groups=4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),26(tape),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),106(fuse),108(lpadmin),114(netdev),123(admin),124(sambashare)

Brack101: duh, just remebered that I have a backup of my xorg.conf file saved to the hard drive

well that's probly not gonna help

sprinkmeier, when I try to unmount the volume to test sudo mount -a it tells me the volume isnt mounted even though it is...

since reconfig should have fixed your xorg.conf

but try it

smikec, that's a healthy list of groups.... are you running "sudo admin-users"? (note that most gtk warnings are harmless and might be just noise)

Brack101: ok, guess that idea is borked

nefrin: no try it out

nefrin: you're on the live cd, might as well

gRunt, might be a FUSE artefact.... how are you unmounting? "sudo umount /media/mountpoint" usually works for me

Brack101: how do I do it from Live CD?

I was just doing it via the desktop sprinkmeier will try console

gRunt, if you're using the same directory mountpoint in fstab that you've currently got mounted then unmount is likely to get confused. comment out the new line in fstab, then try unmounting again.

nefrin: restore your xorg.conf backup

horley:

Okies, also when I run that command I get

scott@linuxbox:~$ sudo mount -a

fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/shared_ntfs: No such file or directory

scott@linuxbox:~$

gRunt, (unmount will see ntfs being used in fstab when the thing is currently FUSE mounted.... or somesuch)

gRunt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.

gRunt, need to create /media/shared_ntfs (unlike magic HAL mounts the directory does not get created for you)

sprinkmeier, sudo opens users-admin but I can not change anything or unlock root like I was able to do just post install, before I fiddled with the permissions.

Anyone can help pls.. my title bar disappeared in desktop

smikec: how the hell did you do that?

even minimize,maximize options in a window

sophia, what do you mean by title bar?

smikec, "sudo users-admin" shouldn't need to be unlocked, it should already be running with root priv. out of ideas for the moment....

sophia: Do also mean the applications, places, and systems?

kohlrak: unchecked "Administer the system" under all users except root user

How do I create /media/shared_ntfs I mean I know I can make a folder in the media directory but I don't see how that works....

smikec: it might be possible to login to root using grub =p

gRunt: sudo mkdir /media/shared_ntfs

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kohlrak: I think sophia means the window decorations

kohlrak: I think sophia means the window decorations

killer0rca: In which there will the all menu options like shutdown...firefox...etc

well that makes sense rww I just dont see how that then links to my parition but ill give it a go

thanks for your help sprinkmeier

sophia, so the top panel?

gRunt: it doesn't unless you modify fstab to make it (or use mount to do it)

killer0rca: ya

gRunt, /etc/fstab provides the link

kohlrak: I can login to root only via terminal

killer0rca: how to get it back?

sophia, well what was the last thing you did before it went away?

Yep it just worked I didnt have the partition mounted but already had the fstab uncommented just went back to my desktop and its there thanks! Anyway to hide the drive on the desktop though I'm not interested in the drive itself only in the folders I am linking instead.

killer0rca: typed compiz in terminal

sophia: using compiz?

yup that will do it. ;)

smikec, so you mean to tell me that when you turn it off you cannot get into root when you turn it back on, that the debug menu or whatever it's called (i foget off hand) does not show up or does not work?

how do i update my apt-sources via comamnd line?

smikec, anything in /var/log/messages? (wild thought: something like /etc/sudoers file permissions got whacked and the system is refusing to use it, hence admin group membership isn't working)

!permissions

An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions

sophia: type: sudo killall compiz

how to get it back now?

sophia, if your card isn't up to snuff compiz won't function right, so I would try disabling it, call up a terminal with alt-f2, I beleive

sophia: it might not work entirely, but the appearances manager's last tab could also fix it

sophia: what video card do you have?

kohlrak: Havent tried any debug menu, just the graphical logon doesnt work

killer0rca: It says no process to kill

kohlrak: there is _no_ reason to use sudo to kill compiz

smikec: ok... So, if you can login with a terminal, have you tried visudo?

kohlrak: secondly, compiz is a shell script; compiz.real is the real binary

crdlb: really? i never bothered to check what user starts it

my computer at home just restarted.. i can't connect using tightvnc right now.. how do i force login onto the desktop, given i have terminal access only?

sophia, hmm, have you just tried rebooting?

killer0rca: tried but no use

onats1: i really don't think you can... If you can, it's proably really hacky and dangerous. XD

sophia: go to system > preferences > appearance > visual effects

sophia: set it to NOne

How can I forward sound to another computer?

ScottG489: with cable or software /

kohlrak: no I haven't tried visudo, im checking the messages log now

crdlb: No preference option here

SunnyDP: What do you mean?

Hey sprinkmeier just had to log in and out as I was testing something seems now when I try and access /media/shared_ntfs it says I can't view the contents of the file as I don't have permission, can I simply chmod -r the folder?

sophia, have you also tried clicking on the desktop to add a panel in manually?

kholrak, so that means i cant vnc to home once its restarted?:(

sophia: do you see System?

smikec: basically, visudo (if that's the command, i can't remember) opens the file that has lists the permissions for "sudo access"

ScottG489: wforward sound to 2nd PC with cable or software ?

crdlb: System option is there when i right click on desktop

sprinkmeir: can't seem to find anything that looks fishy in the log

gRunt, you have to mess with the mount options, they overrise the directory permissions. the "gid=46" was supposed to set the group to something you belong to, check that it does

onats1: not really... If you have your computer auto login to a user account you can simply login using a terminal and start the vnc daemon, but i don't think you can force login from terminal

sophia: are you using gnome?

crdlb: yes

SunnyDP: What do you mean by cable?

sophia: then there shouldn't be a 'system' in the desktop right click menu

kohlrak, well i can ssh to my PC now..

smikec, out of ideas again then....

is that any help?

sophia: there should, however, be a 'change desktop background' item, which we can use. so if you see that, click on it

can I change the gid to something like 100 which is users sprinkmeier ?

onats1: only if a user is already logged in graphically

gRunt, yes.

ScottG489: RCA cables, old school style

onats, are you using Putty to ssh in?

KillerOrca, yes

onats: you COULD try startx, but then there's alot more you'd have to do, and i'm not sure you can do it all from the terminal

kohlrak, i'm sure at home on screen, its already displaying the login screen

root ALL=(ALL) ALL

ScottG489, IIRC X has the ability to forward sound, but everyone just bypasses it to get to /dev/alsa-oss-pulse-whatever_were_using_this_week. streaming audio?

SunnyDP: Still dont know what RCA cables are :/

crdlb: i got top menu by typing xfce4-panel, But in terminal i m not getting maximize and min option

onats: that's true... basically... you gotta get past the login screen first then the rest is easy =p

onats, so you can ssh in type in your login name and password and login?

sophia: xfce4 is not gnome

sprinkmeier, that works but that folder is empty, before when I was manually mounting it it had all my music in it......I deleted the link to it on my desktop but that is all, does the parition normally get wiped or is that because the link was established after I copied all the files over to it?

KillerOrca, yes

smikec: is that how it was when you opened it up?

Brack101: still didn't work, I'm up on a laptop now, but the computer with the problem still has the problem

onats, then you get your prompt at the terminal?

sophia: what video card do you have?

sprinkmeier: Well im using NX rootless to send single windows to my laptop from my desktop. I tried enableing multimedia support but the sound still plays on my desktop

kohlrak: yes

KillerOrca, yes

gRunt, did you run "sudo mount -a"? what does "mount" and "df" say?

nefrin well at least we know it's not x11 :)

Brack101: any other ideas?

ScottG489: red, black, yellow ?

smikec: that's weird... that should mean sudo should work for ALL users

hey, does anyone know of any motion detection software?

ScottG489, BT headphones :-)

nefrin: check syslog, see what's giving you errors at boot time

i want my webcam to take a picture if it detects motion and send it to an email addy

glick, are you using webcam?

crdlb: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

yes onats

nefrin: control alt f1, login sudo nano /var/log/syslog

onats, this might help http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/6

glick: the package is called motion

smikec: i'm gonna check something quick

glick, try zoneminder. i haven't completey set it up though

thanks KillerOrca

kohlrak: sudo is working for users-admin, except a lot is grayed out versus using su root to gain access to it

sprinkmeier, http://pastebin.com/d2237db0b thats the result of mount and df

sophia: open a terminal and run 'gtk-window-decorator --replace &'

Brack101: 5333 lines, am I looking for anything in particular?

hmm thanks doleyb and onats

anybody know how to generate kernel dumps with kdump?

SunnyDP: Oh, no over the net

smikec: that's really odd... That means the permissions of the sudoers themselves is what's broken

sprinkmeier: whats that?

ScottG489: ahh ok, not too sure

gRunt, line 16, still seems to be mounted using FUSE rather than the line out of fstab.

:s

nefrin: yeah most recent boot time, if you forgot, make a note of it when you reboot

ah wait

Scott_Dude25, blue-tooth headphones

kolrak: it was a fresh install tonight, maybe reinstalling is the easier fix

nefrin: particularly around the time your problem happens

smikec: i misread your file.

does anyone know how to get the wireless card to start up on boot? i would also need to keep the same ip address somehow (from my router)

smikec: you know how to use vim, right?

no

those tools all look very complex, isnt there anything simpler

going to bed

night

for a simple single webcam?

hi, i have a question about a particular modprobe at startup... do I put that in init.d? thx in advance

KillerOrca, this still requires me to administer via GUI, which i dont have access to right now

smikec: it's a sort of gedit that runs in the terminal